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Episode 161: The embodied experience of postmenopause with Stella Duffy

Stella Duffy is an award-winning writer of 17 novels, over 70 short stories and 15 plays who’s also worked in theatre for 35 years as an actor, director and facilitator. She’s a psychotherapist and a yoga teacher. She recently completed her doctorate in existential psychotherapy and her research was in the embodied experience of post-menopause. She’s been post-menopausal since chemotherapy for breast cancer in her mid-30s. Stella has been active in equalities and diversity work in the arts and LGBTQ+ communities for many decades.

We talk about:

  • Stella’s experience of menopause coinciding with six months of chemotherapy
  • Menopause as a global issue
  • Challenging existing narratives
  • Societal factors and the impact of money
  • Cultural differences in menopause
  • The UK’s influence on menopause narratives
  • Alternative perspectives on menopause
  • The importance of lifestyle factors
  • Societal perceptions of post-menopausal women in a patriarchal culture
  • Dismantling misogynistic stereotypes
  • Being inclusive about societal expectations and challenges related to aging
  • The societal pressure on women regarding fertility and how it contributes to defining their value.

And more! This is such a rich and empowering conversation.

You can also watch this interview on YouTube.

Stella’s websites: stelladuffy.blog | stelladuffytherapy.co.uk

Twitter/ X | Instagram | Threads

https://stelladuffy.blog & https://stelladuffytherapy.co.uk

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Episode 148: Why we need more MenoClarity

Talking to the founders of MenoClarity about why we’ve come together and what we hope to achieve with this group.

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Menopause And Disability – Need They Be Linked?

Guidance from the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) has clarified employers’ legal obligations towards women experiencing menopausal symptoms that may be interfering with their work. This isn’t new law. Rather, the guidance has reiterated and elevated existing legislation, bringing greater awareness of the protections in place for menopausal women in the workplace. In the past, if women wanted to make discrimination claims because of menopause, they could only do this by making a claim for menopause being a disability. This is still the case. 

Generally I think the new guidance is a welcome move. I’m happy to see efforts to generate greater awareness around menopause and that women will be supported more and also protected. I’m pleased that employment law does enable women to push back against unfavourable treatment and that more and more organisations are putting in place a menopause policy.

However, I struggle with any association made between menopause and disability, because I consider menopause to be a natural stage of life and even when women have severe menopause symptoms, I don’t think that pushes them towards disability. But before I talk more about that, first let’s take a look at what exactly the EHRC has said.

Employers legal obligations are set out thus:

“Under the Equality Act 2010, workers are protected from discrimination, harassment and victimisation on the basis of protected characteristics including disabilityage and sex.

If menopause symptoms have a long term and substantial impact on a woman’s ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities, these symptoms could be considered a disability. If menopause symptoms amount to a disability, an employer will be under a legal obligation to make reasonable adjustments. They will also be under a legal obligation to not directly or indirectly discriminate because of the disability or subject the woman to discrimination arising from disability.

Women experiencing menopause symptoms may also be protected from direct and indirect discrimination, as well as harassment and victimisation, on the grounds of age and sex.

Under health and safety legislation, employers also have a legal obligation to conduct an assessment of their workplace risks.”

The reasonable adjustments to working conditions that the EHRC recommends for menopausal employees are better ventilation and cooling devices to accommodate hot flushes for example, the provision of quiet rooms and relaxing uniform policies or allowing women to wear cooler clothing if needed.  The guidance also recommends facilitating flexible working and changing shift patterns, for example, to accommodate women experiencing symptoms of menopause, such as difficulty sleeping, hot flashes and brain fog.

If employers fail to make these accommodations, they could potentially be sued under disability legislation. The guidance also sets out how taking disciplinary action because of menopause-related absence could be unlawful discrimination unless it is justified. Similarly, using language that ridicules a worker in relation to their menopausal symptoms could be considered harassment on the basis of age, sex, or disability. This last point, I love!

This all seems to be good news and it’s important to get more guidance on best practices. Just being able to wear natural fabrics and not synthetics can make a radical change to a menopausal woman’s comfort levels at work. But she also needs multiple sets of uniform to accommodate frequent changes and especially in case she suffers from menstrual flooding during her menopause transition.

These are all important ways to accommodate women at work. We also need to think about toilet facilities which are often woefully inadequate. If a woman is flooding during menopause and she has no access to a wash basin in the toilet stall, how can she possibly take care of herself in the workplace. It’s important that employers also provide toilet facilities that enable women to practice good personal hygiene without making any embarrassing issues obvious to everybody at work!

It’s interesting to consider that pregnancy is a protected characteristic but menopause is not. The guidance talks about harassment or discrimination on the basis of age, sex, or disability, but women cannot currently bring a claim for discrimination on the basis of two of these protected characteristics, only one. I believe that is why, in the past, when anybody wanted to make a claim in connection with menopause, it had to be done on the basis of disability. But pregnancy isn’t a disability and neither is puberty. Why does menopause take us into disability territory? 

Is a menopausal woman a disabled person? The guidance talks in terms of when there are long-term severe symptoms that can impact a woman’s work, the symptoms could then be considered a disability. So, technically, it’s not menopause itself that is the disability, rather it is the menopause symptoms, if they are severe. But is this just semantics? It still puts menopause in the disability camp, I think. It still seems to me, to be an unfortunate use of terminology.

Natural hormonal changes are something that happen to all women in midlife, and I believe with more knowledge, support and understanding, most women should be able to transition through this period without having to call on the disabilities act. If, in fact, we were able to call on two protected characteristics to make a claim, then menopause would fit neatly in age and sex. We go through menopause because we are older and female. 

Another element of the guidance is that menopause-related leave needs to be classified as menopause-related leave. This strikes me as a very grey area. How are women and managers to classify what is related to menopause and what isn’t? Will a doctors note and medical evidence be needed? There is no test for natural menopause, unlike for pregnancy.

If a woman is suffering from sleepless nights, that could be menopause-related or it could be stress related to life in general. There can be so much going on in a midlife woman’s life! She may be grappling with an empty nest, she may be stuck in the sandwich generation, caring for children and elderly parents, she may be experiencing her first real dose of gendered ageism, which could be knocking her confidence even further. 

If a woman suffers from joint pain, how do we know that is specifically menopause and not another reason? Do we look at the average age of menopause and if the employee fits that profile, then we put everything down to menopause? There is much disagreement about what exactly is caused by menopause and the extent to which it has a significant impact on women. And every woman has a different menopause.

Could menopause now be used as an excuse for poor performance standards with employers fearful to say anything in case they get sued? What time period will be used to accommodate women needing support during the menopause transition? We know all women have their own individual experience and deserve to be accommodated on a case-by-case basis. There is no one-size-fits-all, but it does make it all quite complicated. But menopause and women’s health in general is complicated. We need to work with that.

There are certainly positive steps being taken to support women at work and hopefully improve the employment rates of older women, so they don’t feel the workplace no longer works for them. If women are leaving work because it can’t support and accommodate them during their menopause, that’s not a good thing! We need to ensure we keep older women at work – society needs them! 

But it’s not just about ticking the menopause box either. It’s also about considering the impact of age discrimination and sex discrimination, and how we can also tackle those. Both have a big impact on how women experience menopause, as well as just being an older woman in general. There’s lots more to be done to combat the often unfair treatment of older women at work, and stop the need for any woman to attend an employment tribunal!

You can hear me talking about the new menopause guidance on Times Radio.

You may also like: Government Policy On Menopause – What Exactly Is It?

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Episode 159: Black menopause and staying curious with Pamela Windle

Pamela Windle

Pamela Windle joins the podcast to talk about menopause, at work, for Black women, diversity of experience, the importance of representation and staying curious about big statements about women’s health, especially when those relate to race. Pamela is a women’s health coach and menstruation and menopause consultant for the workplace. She trained with the Integrated Women’s Health Institute and the International Menopause Society. She’s an adviser to the British Standards Institute for the new standard on menstruation, menstrual health and menopause in the workplace.

We talk about:

  • Menopause and perimenopause in the workplace
  • The new BSI standard on menstruation and menopause in the workplace
  • Pamela’s personal experiences with perimenopause, challenging societal shame and embarrassment around menstruation and aging
  • Emphasizing the diversity of women’s experiences and the importance of self-care
  • Scepticism about research on menopause for Black women 
  • The lack of representation of Black women in medical research
  • The importance of including diverse perspectives in medical research 
  • Still being perimenopausal at 57
  • The spread of misinformation about menopause
  • Menopause and HRT stigmatization in the UK
  • Black women and risk of cancer
  • Menopause and hormone imbalance for Black women

And more!

Pamela’s website: smarterchange.co.uk

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Being wiser about menopause with Tania Elfersy

Tania Elfersy talks about how we can be wiser about the menopause transition, so we suffer less and feel its power more.

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Episode 150: Finding the true truth with Ann Marie McQueen

Celebrating episode 150 of the podcast with a very special guest. Ann Marie McQueen is a journalist on the world stage, focused on menopause and on a mission to cut through misleading narratives and dodgy data. She founded HotFlash Inc in 2020 to cover the latest clinical studies, treatments, products, guidance and more via a weekly research letter, podcast and across social media. She’s also one of the founder members of MenoClarity.

We talk about:

  • Why and how menopause became Ann Marie’s focus
  • Living in the Middle East as a Canadian expat
  • Cultural differences around menopause narratives
  • What annoys and concerns her about how menopause is portrayed
  • Issues around the impact of social media on menopause narratives
  • The oversimplification of menopause messages
  • Ann Marie’s struggles with ill health and separating that out from hormonal change
  • The impact of belief systems and trauma on menopause
  • The impact of early parental bereavement
  • How her view of menopause has changed
  • Understanding research and what it’s really saying
  • Being sceptical about big promises that make people money
  • Menopause narratives that don’t empower women
  • Menopause as a hero’s journey

And more!

Anne Marie’s website: hotflashinc.com

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Podcast: The Hotflash inc podcast

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Episode 137: Being wiser about menopause with Tania Elfersy

Tania Elfersy

Tania Elfersy is a transformative coach, speaker and award-winning author, specializing in midlife women’s health. She’s spent years researching what causes and what can relieve symptoms associated with perimenopause and menopause and became free of her own physical and emotional symptoms naturally and simply. Rachel quoted her extensively in her own book. Tania set up The Wiser Woman project in 2015 to help women transform their experience of midlife change. She’s the author of a brilliant new book, The Wiser Woman’s Guide To Perimenopause and Menopause.

We talk about:

  • What lead Tania to the work she does
  • How the body doesn’t malfunction suddenly in midlife
  • The innate brilliance of the body and what that means for menopause symptoms
  • The difference between how we respond to issues in pregnancy and menopause
  • The importance of focusing on the emotional and spiritual side of the midlife journey
  • The insight that allowed Tania to free herself from her own menopause symptoms
  • The interplay between Mind, Thought and Consciousness
  • Tania’s concerns about the narrative in the UK
  • Difference between the UK menopause narrative and North America
  • How women can best help themselves during midlife change
  • Tania’s thoughts on the Davina McCall documentary Sex, Mind and the Menopause

And more!

You can read a full transcription of this podcast here.

You can find out more about Tania:

Tania’s website: thewiserwoman.com

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Tania’s book: The Wiser Woman’s Guide To Perimenopause and Menopause

Additional Resources:

14 of Tania Elfersy podcasts interviews

Calm after the storm: perimenopause, menopause, the brain, HRT, dementia and Alzheimer’s

Menopause in the workplace: a podcast and call to action!

Davina McCall: sex, myths and the menopause

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Episode 129: Menopause and nutrition with Karen Newby

Karen Newby

Karen Newby is a nutritionist who’s been practicing nutritional therapy for over 10 years. Her area of specialism is women’s hormonal health, especially menopause. She’s the author of The Natural Menopause Method, a nutritional guide to perimenopause and beyond. This woman knows so much about nutrition and women’s hormones. This is a brilliant and empowering conversation.

We talk about:

  • How we can best prepare ourselves for perimenopause
  • The first signs of perimenopause that Karen sees and what can be done about those
  • Good and bad estrogens
  • What we can learn from other cultures in terms of food and hormones
  • The importance of phytoestrogens
  • Food as medicine
  • How to stop sugar cravings and why they happen
  • Why modern life can make menopause worse
  • Why women may get heavier periods as they move into perimenopause
  • The importance of maintaining blood sugar levels
  • The role of the adrenal glands
  • Why we need to get better at managing stress
  • Why there is no easy fix when it comes to menopause
  • The six easy shifts to make to support us in perimenopause
  • Why we need to start putting ourselves first

And more!

Find more about Karen:

Karen’s website: karennewby.com

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Karen’s book: The Natural Menopause Method: a nutritional guide to perimenopause and beyond

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Episode 118: The magic of menopause with Darcey Steinke (Re-Release)

This interview was transformational for me! I was so excited to interview Darcey Steinke, author of Flash Count Diary. I loved her book and so many of her thoughts about menopause are similar to mine. It was wonderful to find a kindred spirit whose overall impression of menopause is so positive. Darcey was the first guest to make me cry!

We talk about:

  • Darcey’s fascination with her hot flashes
  • How the book is about so many different things about midlife and menopause
  • How menopause can be a struggle but there is lots of richness to gain
  • Darcey’s startling realizations about the menopausal transition
  • How Darcey managed her own menopause symptoms and what helped most
  • How we may be more like our pre-pubescent selves post menopause
  • How we may live more of our lives being infertile than fertile
  • The tyranny of estrogen and what it’s like to finally be free of it
  • Fertility, menopause and the patriarchy
  • Appearance, visibility and the power of female friends
  • Calling out ageism especially at work
  • Anger and the lifting of the complicity veil
  • The marvels of whales and menopause
  • The evolutionary reason for menopause
  • How misogyny has lots to answer for on how we view menopause
  • How rethinking menopause and ageing can re-frame our experience of both

And more!

Find out more about Darcey:

Darcey’s website: darcey-steinke.com | Instagram

Darcey’s book: Flash Count Diary: A New Story About the Menopause 

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Sex And Menopause – Keeping You Sexy

But it doesn’t have to be contentious nor taboo! Menopause means your body’s changing and so may your sex life. But not necessarily for the worse. It may even be an exciting new beginning!

But if you’re suffering from menopause symptoms (or actually perimenopause symptoms), experiencing decreased desire, and vaginal dryness is an issue, how do you keep sex a joy, not a chore?  If you’ve been with the same partner for a long time, how do you keep things fresh and exciting, especially if menopause symptoms have dented your self-esteem?

What if you’re just not feeling sexy any more? It’s a truism that in a great relationship, sex isn’t so important, but in a bad one, it usually is! And what if you don’t have a partner to keep the wheels on the road? Then what?

Sex and the menopause may call for extra creativity. Here are some ideas to help keep you and your sex life sexy.

Changing hormones

Many women struggle with the changes menopause brings, particularly when it comes to changing hormones and the dreaded prospect of vaginal atrophy.

A little known fact is that as oestrogen and testosterone both decline, testosterone hangs around in the body more. So years after menopause, women can have as much testosterone in their system as they did in their twenties! This means your interest in sex doesn’t necessarily decline even if the body doesn’t respond quite as it used to. Here’s a great article that talks about sex actually getting better with age and the difference between one’s genital prime and one’s sexual prime.

An issue for many women is vaginal dryness. Things can change down there and it can take many women longer to get aroused after menopause than when younger. Penetration can also be painful. I’ve been told that it can also be more of a problem for women who have not given birth vaginally.

Sea buckthorn oil, taken as a food supplement, can help with intimate dryness, as well as giving a boost to skin, so they say. HRT should help and vaginal pessaries in the form of Vagifem (available on prescription in the UK), used either alone or in addition to standard HRT, can really help keep things moist. Just a couple a week may be all you need.

Then there are some great lubricants out there.  The best of the commercial ones I’ve found is Pjur silicone lubricant as recommended by our Pleasure Workshop expert in the Members Club Becky Price. I chose Pjur Woman on Amazon and it’s really good.  It’s not cheap but it lasts! Because it’s silicon, it stays on the skin and doesn’t get absorbed. Before I found that I used organic Yes natural water-based vaginal lubricant, available on prescription in the UK. They also do an oil-based lube but now I really prefer Pjur. But their vaginal moisturizer is a useful addition to moisturizing routines. I wish Yes would do refillable dispensers for their moisturizer, so we can cut down on plastic while still getting the benefit! The same for the Vagifem pessaries which each come with a plastic dispenser – very wasteful. Reduce, reuse, recycle we say please!

But you may want to also try some wonderful organic coconut oil. It is really brilliant and moisturizers as well as lubricates. Organic coconut oil must be one of the most versatile products on the planet. As well as using it in the bedroom, for massage too, I wash my face and take my makeup off with it at night, I cook with it and it’s also a great general moisturizer.

Use it or lose it

Another theme is use it or lose it.  Your vagina isn’t going to shrivel up over night, but it pays to invest love and attention in its future health. If you’re a masturbation aficionado, keep up the good work and give your clitoris the attention it deserves. If you’re struggling to maintain previous levels of desire and sexual response, for whatever reason, vibrators might help both with a partner and without. But also don’t forget that desire can change from day to day, month to month. Don’t assume that because it’s dipped, it’s always going to be that way.

Also, don’t assume that heterosexual sex needs to always be penis in vagina. Maybe that’s just too sore or uncomfortable which it can be some women.  Just carrying on regardless because you don’t want to ‘lose it’ when it’s sore is a recipe for disaster. If that’s the case, take PIV sex off the menu for a while, reduce the associated stress about performance and have some intimate fun using other forms of sexual pleasure for both you and him.  But do keep up the vulval stimulation because getting  blood consistently to that area is what will help keep you going long term. Then bring back PIV as and when it feels right to do so.

Not only can vibrators make orgasms a forgone conclusion (hooray!), but they are also useful during a dry spell to maintain sexual function and blood supply to the necessary area. And of course have fun!  Vibrators can also be great for lighting that first spark of desire if it’s taking a while to get aroused with a partner, which may be a bit soul destroying for both of you.

My favourite vibrator supplier is Sh!, a women-run real-life and on-line store which is a veritable women’s erotic emporium. Everything you might have ever fantasied about, you can find at Sh!. Time Out describes it as the ‘best sex shop for women’ and there are hundreds of  products for all sexual persuasions to tickle your fancy.

There’s loads of advice on their website, as well as classes in store if you live in London, UK.  They also have plenty of erotica that might just wake you up in ways you thought were long since gone. Try out their egg vibrators if you haven’t already experienced these delightful little toys. They’re great for getting the juices going when you’re struggling to get in the mood. Sh! has given our sister site, The Mutton Club. their advice for having great orgasms here.

Orgasms galore

Finally, for the orgasmically challenged or just sexually ambitious, decide to spend some time with Betty Dodson.  Betty has made it her life’s mission to educate women on sexuality and masturbation, and to ensure that every woman achieves amazing and consistent orgasms. She teamed up with Carlin Ross, another sex educator, to amplify their collective voice and change more women’s lives. Their website is a mine of great information and their work constantly inspiring.

Have fun! If you want some more help with both intimacy and pleasure and re-igniting your intimate relationship check out the workshops on these in our Membership.

Check out my podcast with midlife sex therapist Dr Sonia Wright.

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Episode 106: How to embrace your second spring with Kate Codrington

Kate Codrington is the author of Second Spring: the self-care guide to menopause, which is a rather lovely and revolutionary new book. She’s a menstrual and menopause mentor, speaker, workshop facilitator, writer, podcaster and a therapist for nearly 30 years. She’s passionate about bringing a more holistic approach to the menopause transition and to enabling women to embrace fully this powerful stage of life.

We talk about:

  • Where Kate is in her menopause journey
  • How the book is very different to other books on menopause
  • How Kate sees menopause as something very positive
  • How cyclicality is core to the book and how this impacts women throughout life
  • The earthiness of the book and the power that comes from that
  • Yoga Nidra and its role in the book and in our menopause transition
  • The importance of going inward in menopause
  • Embracing the change rather than fighting it
  • Menopause as a spiritual journey
  • Things that annoy us both about the prevailing menopause narratives
  • What Kate learnt from her own menopause transition

And more!

Kate kindly shared this diagram from her book. She talks about it in the podcast and suggests printing it out so your entire family can keep track of which season they’re in week to week and year to year!

Find more about Kate:

Kate’s website: katecodrington.co.uk

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Kate’s book: Second Spring: the self-care guide to menopause

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Episode 104: Breaking down taboos with Elizabeth Joseph

Elizabeth Joseph describes herself as a social media menopause guinea pig. She’s on a journey of perimenopausal transformation. We dig into exactly what that means. Elizabeth is so much fun and I know you’re going to be entertained by her perimenopausal antics!

We talk about:

  • What Elizabeth means by being a social media menopause guinea pig
  • How her Instagram feed has grown and what it’s about
  • Why she does what she does
  • Ending the taboo about menopause
  • The funny remedies she’s tried in her perimenopausal journey
  • The importance of being prepared and talking about menopause
  • Going back to her dramatic, entertainment roots
  • Building a community on social media
  • Getting kids involved in menopause conversations
  • What Elizabeth has learnt through her menopause journey
  • What she wants other midlife women to know

And more!

Find out more about Elizabeth Joseph:

Elizabeth’s Instagram

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Episode 101: How women’s brains get stronger and better with age with Dr Louann Brizendine

Dr Louann Brizendine is the best-selling author of The Female Brain and is here to talk to me about her latest book, The Upgrade: How the female brain gets stronger and better in midlife and beyond. The Upgrade amounts to a celebration of how women can step into their power and an entirely new—and radically positive—understanding of aging.

We talk about:

  • Why Louann wrote The Upgrade
  • How our brains get stronger and better as we age and especially after menopause
  • How menopause impacts our brains
  • What the post menopause (upgrade) brain changes enable us to do
  • How women can sometimes sabotage the upgrade
  • How life gets better for women with each passing decade
  • What we need to make the most of the upgrade
  • The impact of stress on older women
  • How to upgrade the gut brain team
  • The importance of social connection
  • Embracing the wisdom and power of the upgrade

And more!

Find more about Louann:

Louann’s website: louannbrizendine.com

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Louann’s book: The Upgrade: How the Female Brain Gets Stronger and Better in Midlife and Beyond

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Episode 91: The power of menopause with Alexandra & Sjanie – Red School

alexandra and sjanie from red school

Alexandra Pope and Sjanie Hugh Wurlitzer are the founders of Red School and the authors of Wild Power: Discover the Magic of Your Menstrual Cycle and Awaken the Feminine Path to Power and Wise Power: Discover the Liberating Power of Menopause to Awaken Authority, Purpose and Belonging.

This is such an empowering conversation about the innate power of women. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!

We talk about:

  • What their book Wild Power is all about
  • The importance of Menstrual Cycle Awareness (MCA)
  • How menopause prompted Alexandra to change course and focus on menstruality
  • How Alexandra and Sjanie met and how Red School came about
  • How Red School is preparing for Sjanie’s menopause
  • How being in tune with our menstrual cycle can make menopause less of a trial than it’s usually portrayed as being
  • The Red School view of menopause
  • What women can do to prepare for a good menopause transition
  • The awakening that comes with menopause
  • Changing the narrative around menopause and making self-care non-negotiable
  • The changes that come with menopause
  • What Alexandra and Sjanie hope to achieve with their new book

And more!

Find more about Red School:

Red school’s website: www.redschool.net

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Books: Wise Power: Discover the Liberating Power of Menopause to Awaken Authority, Purpose and Belonging and Wild Power: Discover the Magic of Your Menstrual Cycle and Awaken the Feminine Path to Power and

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